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Tiompan wrote:
Nothing strange about finding x in coastal Europe .
Similarly nothing strange in finding it inland at Atapuerca either, it is after all very widespread, the authors of the paper were not surprised and even mentions it's findings in NBQ
Tiompan wrote:If the plaque does represent pillars then it does not represent the configuration of central pillars at any of the enclosures at GT , as can been readily seen by looking at the relative positions of the pillars in fig 9 , in the article , or indeed in any pictures of the pillars ,i.e. the pillars face each other whilst the plaque has them alongside each other .
The “stickman “ and the “hole “ require more than lot of faith , although anyone who can read Collins without laughing will have plenty of that .
None of this has any impact on the numerous problems associated with the putataive Deneb /Cygnus alignment nonsense highlighted earlier
Tiompan wrote:We have been over the interpretation of these markings before ,as is often the case the “interpretation”, like a rorschach test , tells us more about the personal obsessions of the interpreter than the actual markings .
Tiompan wrote:
“I believe that both of us can agree that the ivory plaque is a representation of one of these ritual structures. “
It is not what Collins describes it as . The configuration is wrong in respect to the pillars and there is no hole ,and even if the mark was a hole it is in the wrong place , look at where holed stones are found in relation to the pillars , moreover there are examples of holed stones which are 90 degrees from a rough N-S line and then there is the non existent “observer “ .
Tiompan wrote:“We differ on whether stone plaque C is another representation of one of these ritual structures, and what the image on the reverse of it represents, or whether the image on the reverse of it represents anything at all.”
Differ entirely .Like all over interpretations the interpretation tells us more about the interpreters obsessions than what is being interpreted .
Tiompan wrote:As far as "obsessions" goes, for some reason, you continue to insist that the ancient sky was the same as that seen today, when there is a mass of very concrete physical evidence that that was not so. “
Where is this insistence ? Why didn’t you quote where I said anything like what you describe ? you just made that up .You also ignored the simpler explanations for the markings .
Tiompan wrote:
“The ivory plaque exists as well, and it appears to show a figure in relation to the pillars. “
Only to the extremely gullible .
“There have also been stone rings found at PPN B sites. “
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