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Postby Rokcet Scientist » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:02 am


NYT: February 5, 2008

An Altar Beyond Olympus for a Deity Predating Zeus

PHILADELPHIA — Before Zeus hurled his first thunderbolt from Olympus, the pre-Greek people occupying the land presumably paid homage and offered sacrifices to their own gods and goddesses, whose nature and identities are unknown to scholars today.

But archaeologists say they have now found the ashes, bones and other evidence of animal sacrifices to some pre-Zeus deity on the summit of Mount Lykaion, in the region of Greece known as Arcadia. The remains were uncovered last summer at an altar later devoted to Zeus.

Fragments of a coarse, undecorated pottery in the debris indicated that the sacrifices might have been made as early as 3000 B.C., the archaeologists concluded. That was about 900 years before Greek-speaking people arrived, probably from the north in the Balkans, and brought their religion with them.

The excavators were astonished. They were digging [...]



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/science/05zeus.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Postby Minimalist » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:15 am

They were digging in a sanctuary to Zeus, in Greek mythology the father of gods and goddesses. From texts in Linear B, an ancient form of Greek writing, Zeus is attested as a pre-eminent god as early as 1400 B.C.



A little ancient re-cycling, perhaps? Why waste a perfectly good shrine.
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Postby Rokcet Scientist » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:52 am

Minimalist wrote:
They were digging in a sanctuary to Zeus, in Greek mythology the father of gods and goddesses. From texts in Linear B, an ancient form of Greek writing, Zeus is attested as a pre-eminent god as early as 1400 B.C.


A little ancient re-cycling, perhaps? Why waste a perfectly good shrine.


Par for the course, it seems. Isn't the Xtian religion also a re-cycling of religions?
Mithras and Judaism come to mind first.
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Postby Beagle » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:59 am

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123114601.htm

Another link to the story. No log-in required.

What would surprise Pausanias—as it is surprising archaeologists—is how early that “beginning” actually may be. New pottery evidence from excavations by the Greek-American, interdisciplinary team of the Mt. Lykaion Excavation and Survey Project indicates that the ash altar—a cone of earth located atop the southern peak of Mt Lykaion where dedications were made in antiquity— was in use as early as 5,000 years ago—at least 1,000 years before the early Greeks began to worship the god Zeus.



I'm wondering if this religion is associated with the European culture of 7,000 yrs. ago. Temples and roadways in Germany, Austria, and elsewhere have been found. We had a thread on it a long time ago.

I guess we must hope that they find more than ash.
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