Clovis in N J ?

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Clovis in N J ?

Postby kbs2244 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:57 am

From the Yahoo headlines

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/outposts ... ithsonian/


A N J beach is pretty far east for a Clovis isn't it?

If it is from "beach replenishment sand" it may very well have been dredged up from far offshore, but still on the continental shelf. They just use huge pumps to suck up and then dump sand from off the bottom to the beach.
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Re: Clovis in N J ?

Postby Minimalist » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:38 pm

Not if you look at the geographical distribution of Clovis sites.

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Had they entered by "Beringia" you would expect the opposite distribution, wouldn't you?
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Re: Clovis in N J ?

Postby hardaker » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:31 pm

There's been an eastern focus on earliest clovis for a long time. Errett Callahan was working on that back in the late 70s.
Now, this is the point of the solutrean connection hypothesis.
Recently, Delmarva Peninsula has yielded consistent preClovis technology.
It is also off the Atlantic coast that Stanford identified the dredged up solutrean point.
"Radical theory of first Americans places Stone Age Europeans in Delmarva 20,000 years ago"
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Re: Clovis in N J ?

Postby Minimalist » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:26 pm

What was always most compelling about Standford's hypothesis was that he had Solutrean tools in France and Virginia whereas Siberia shows a history of microblade tools.

Did I hear that someone matched a Solutrean point to a rock formation in SW France?
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Re: Clovis in N J ?

Postby shawomet » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:08 pm

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Re: Clovis in N J ?

Postby shawomet » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:08 pm

Minimalist wrote:What was always most compelling about Standford's hypothesis was that he had Solutrean tools in France and Virginia whereas Siberia shows a history of microblade tools.

Did I hear that someone matched a Solutrean point to a rock formation in SW France?


Two bipointed blades from Delmarva have been found to be made of French flint. One was found beneath a colonial homestead chimney foundation and an origin with the settler could not be eliminated. One of the 12 known bipoints, considered the best match to a Solutrean bipoint to date, was found in a collection from Providence, RI.

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