Brad at it again

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Brad at it again

Postby E.P. Grondine » Mon May 20, 2013 2:45 pm

As I can't get this to post to Lepper's blog, I'll post it here:

Bradley, you left out of your summary Meggers demonstration of identical watercraft and housing technologies shared by the two areas.

And that that trans-pacific contact spanned TWO cultures.

Also, to my knowledge, Meggers always claimed that those contacts were accidental and one way.
E.P. Grondine

Re: Brad at it again

Postby uniface » Mon May 20, 2013 3:50 pm


Re: Brad at it again

Postby uniface » Mon May 20, 2013 8:25 pm

Or was it this one (that I edited the garbage out of) ?

The largest ever genetic study of native South Americans identified a sub-population in Ecuador with an unexpected link to eastern Asia.The study, published in PLOS Genetics, concluded that Asian genes had been introduced into South America sometime after 6,000 years ago — the same time the Jomon culture was flourishing in Japan.

Back in the 1960s, the renowned Smithsonian archaeologist Betty Meggers argued that similarities between the pottery of the contemporaneous Valdivia culture in Ecuador and Japan’s Jomon culture indicated that Japanese fishermen had “discovered” America about 5,000 years ago. Few archaeologists took this idea seriously. Writing in 1980, Meggers expressed frustration that transoceanic contact as an explanation for cultural similarities was dismissed by dogmatic colleagues as “cult archaeology,” and she complained that “no amount of evidence” could convince them. ... ntact.html

Actual evidence is NEVER at the center of any issue like this. The crux is whether the model of the past the Grand Sachems have in their heads allows something to seem plausible.

IOW, it's not about data or the interpretation of data, but about dictating prescribed belief.

Re: Brad at it again

Postby shawomet » Tue May 21, 2013 6:23 am

Not taking sides on this. Just looking for articles pro or con. This one is con. ... aggett.pdf
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