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The Hooked X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:04 pm
by oldarchystudent
I just ordered this today from Amazon. Looks interesting - has anyone read it? Any thoughts?

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:29 am
by E.P. Grondine
A complete crock of shit by Scott Wolters, in which he ties the Kensington Rune Stone into theosophist cult "archaeology". "This journey has been nothing short of amazing as it winds through the mysterious worlds of the medieval Cistercians, the Knights Templar, and modern Freemasonry," as Wolters puts it. In theosophist cult archaeology, Masonry is a Luciferian Brotherhood established by Melchisedek. Wolters knows his market; you can write me for a free copy of my guide inside it.

The Five Nations well dated memories of the Norse may be found in "Man and Impact in the Americas".

Other than that, read Farley Mowat's The Farfarers.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:49 am
by oldarchystudent
I'll try to find a link, but I remember reading that the Kensington Runestone had been validated by comparing it to a fairly obscure 14th century dialect found on Scanadavian graves?

It will be interesting to see where the theosophy thing ties in. If he starts talking about Lemurians from outer space I'll know I've wasted my money. I watched a presentation by the author on youtube where he seemed to be defending his theory fairly well, but withoug having read the book it wasn't easy to tell.

I picked up the Farfarers a few months back in a secondhand bookstore but haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Right now I'm reading Tim Wallace-Murphy's "Templars in America" and I've just picked up "Uriel's Machine".

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:23 am
by kbs2244
The validation of the Kensington Runestone is a generational thing.
Some younger, and less entrenched, minds are willing to accept Scandavian penetration as far south as Okalahoma.

Gloria Farley found evidence of them coming downstream, as well as of North Africans (Libya, Egyptian, Phoenician?) coming up stream.
Very different time frames though.

Gloria is a classic example of being pooh-poohed by the “establishment” when her findings didn’t agree with “conventual wisdom.”
Her relationship with Berry Fell, who she turned to when no one else would listen, didn’t help her reputation.

But, she found what she found. And most of it can still be seen if someone cares to look.

http://www.gloriafarley.com/


I went through a Templar phase.
I don’t think there is any real doubt they knew of, and visited, the North East coast.
Weather or not they buried anything on Oak Island is still to be discovered!

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:37 am
by oldarchystudent
Damn you! Another book I have to read. :lol:

You mention Barry Fell - one of the books I've ordered in my recent orgy of book buying is his America BC.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:03 pm
by kbs2244
Very good book.

The thing they don’t like about him is his finding of Ogam script everywhere.
Even the ragged edges of feathers on cave art bird wings.

As a rock art script it was very practical.
Being made up of straight lings of varying lengths and being able to follow the turns of a “base line” made it easy to peck out.
He even found it in the “rays” of a circular “Sun disk.”

The problem is he was virtually the only NA scholar that could interrupted it.
And he was very willing to make the jump to phonetic spelling with the writers speaking a number of languages.
Hence no “standard” to interpret by.
Very messy.

Of course the fact that he was an oceanographer by training didn’t help his status in this field.

I am a fan.
He made his mistakes.
But his batting average was a whole lot better than some major league millionaires.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:35 am
by oldarchystudent
Thanks for that viewpoint.

I'm just finishing up Wallace-Murphy's "Templars in America" and then I'm on to the Hooked X. I'll let you know what I think.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:31 am
by E.P. Grondine
Hi OAS -

You might want to read Peter James' "Ancient Mysteries" after you read Wolter's book.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:10 pm
by oldarchystudent
And maybe Zecharia Sitchin after that?

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:01 pm
by E.P. Grondine
Different entirely.

An introduction to Sitchin is here:

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/

But it really misses the fundamentals.
Ever hear of Johannes Radloff, OAS?

James' book is available at a discount at Borders now.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:13 pm
by oldarchystudent
Thanks but I've already overspent my book quota for the month.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:07 am
by E.P. Grondine
How about your clothing budget?
They have these T-shirts that read
"I Want To Believe"

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:28 am
by oldarchystudent
Yes - thank you - the rather unsubtle subtext of your last couple of posts has not been lost on me......

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:48 am
by Minimalist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone

Almost all Runologists and experts in Scandinavian linguistics consider the runestone to be a hoax.



Authors of books on various subjects ( Atlantis, Ancient Aliens, Ghosts, the Chupacabra, the Bermuda Triangle, even cosmic bombardment, E.P. ) have a vested interest in promoting those subjects. Running on the now abysmally mis-named History Channel is a series on Ancient Aliens which can't seem to produce anyone other than the authors of books promoting the idea to be spokesmen...even Erich Van Daniken! I watched about a half hour last night of one of them and noted that in that half hour they several times resorted to the comment "mainstream scientists/archaeologists say X but Ancient Aliens "theorists" suggest.................." And who are those theorists? Right. The guys who are pushing their own books.

The transparency of this show is pretty obvious.

Re: The Hooked X

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:47 am
by E.P. Grondine
Minimalist wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone
Almost all Runologists and experts in Scandinavian linguistics consider the runestone to be a hoax.



Take a look at Peter James' "Ancient Mysteries", min. In this case I don't have any percentage.

Minimalist wrote:Authors of books on various subjects ( Atlantis, Ancient Aliens, Ghosts, the Chupacabra, the Bermuda Triangle, even cosmic bombardment, E.P. ) have a vested interest in promoting those subjects.


Guilty as charged, min.
But even though cosmic bombardment is real,
I'm still waiting for that call from the History Channel.
I suppose I am simply not handsome enough.

Minimalist wrote:Running on the now abysmally mis-named History Channel is a series on Ancient Aliens which can't seem to produce anyone other than the authors of books promoting the idea to be spokesmen...even Erich Van Daniken! I watched about a half hour last night of one of them and noted that in that half hour they several times resorted to the comment "mainstream scientists/archaeologists say X but Ancient Aliens "theorists" suggest.................." And who are those theorists? Right. The guys who are pushing their own books.

The transparency of this show is pretty obvious.


To sum up, David Hatcher Childress entered into an agreement with Georgio out in SF, Eric von Daniken's man in the US, to share mailing lists. So the old theosophist nonsense, as well as Cremo's, is now wrapped up in new clothes and trotted out to a new audience.

Ross Hamilton (a nice but sincerely confused guy) appeared as well, according to an e-mail he sent me. Ross's "work" features the Allegewi (an imaginary tribal name made up by a frontiersman) who come from Atlantis with classical European constellations and India Indian religious beliefs. I don't know how the ancient alien angle was fit in.

What the History Channel really needs to do is a series on impact events - I am available.
If any of you want to e-mail George Norry, and suggest he have me on as a guest...

Or History Channel could option my guide inside the fringe, which features the sex life of the late cult leader Richard Kieninger.

But that is not likely either.
Since "Mystery" sells, it is their interest to keep things as "Mysterious" as possible.