Problematic Discoveries

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Re: Problematic Discoveries

Postby Springhead » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:40 pm

Shawomet,

You will be relieved to hear that the possible artifact you mention and show is not one Jack analyzed as "provable Pleistocene," though a good number of the rocks posted on the Rock Art Museum site were. Jack did state that he was not sure about the piece but that I should hang on to it.

Here we go on the mental illness bit. Do you classify all your peers this way unless you happen to agree with them? You have opined "mistaken" and "wrong" relative to the purported artifacts on this thread, terms of disagreement expressed a little more reasonably.

The age of these pieces is unknown, but is it too much of a stretch to think that environmental conditions may be a contributory factor in the condition of the rocks? I have read many references about the difficulty of seeing clear signs of knapping and other work techniques due to the age of given pieces. I would ask that you consider that possibility as well as acknowledging that this thread's assemblage may differ from many artifacts of the Holocene as they are core and blade techniques. All examples of this assemblage incorporate art into the intentional work.

P.S. The "Mayan" artifacts you refer to are from a megalithic culture from southern Colombia at the source of the Magdelena River at a place called San Agustin.

Thanks for your comments.
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Re: Problematic Discoveries

Postby Springhead » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:03 pm

Hi Circumspice,

This is the only forum I am a member of or have posted on. I never expected concurrence with my conjectures, but I did hope that a few folks would consider the possibility that the assemblage was real. I suppose you suggest there is concurrence on this forum, perhaps akin to the E.P./Simon21 duel?

Renee and Chris White, as a correction to your lacking research, initially had the idea of a sanctuary site and in preparing the ground to construct a stone circle found an existing one. I do not know them, but they certainly do not deserve your denigration. I fail to see how their activity involves greed.

Que triste your B.S. meter is pegged! My suggestion (to accommodate the state of belief and disbelief) would be to recalibrate or find a bigger meter. Your foregone conclusions, pushed story lines, and insulting style certainly require one to shop for the largest B.S. meter currently available to even get a handle on the load.

I do agree that if it's too good to be true....................

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Re: Problematic Discoveries

Postby circumspice » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:38 pm

Springhead wrote:Hi Circumspice,

This is the only forum I am a member of or have posted on. I never expected concurrence with my conjectures, but I did hope that a few folks would consider the possibility that the assemblage was real. I suppose you suggest there is concurrence on this forum, perhaps akin to the E.P./Simon21 duel?

Renee and Chris White, as a correction to your lacking research, initially had the idea of a sanctuary site and in preparing the ground to construct a stone circle found an existing one. I do not know them, but they certainly do not deserve your denigration. I fail to see how their activity involves greed.

Que triste your B.S. meter is pegged! My suggestion (to accommodate the state of belief and disbelief) would be to recalibrate or find a bigger meter. Your foregone conclusions, pushed story lines, and insulting style certainly require one to shop for the largest B.S. meter currently available to even get a handle on the load.

I do agree that if it's too good to be true....................

Thanks for commenting.


I didn't say that you were a member of another board. I said that you had previously posted on "fringe websites". Which you have because you are a registered member of the Portable Rock Art Museum which is a notable fringe website. You have linked that website to showcase your rocks here. Do you deny it? I read there that you must register on that website in order to be able to post pics of your dubious rocks.

My research is not lacking concerning the Whites & the so called Spout Run archaeological site. That is the reason why I said that if it's too good to be true it isn't.

*cue Twilight Zone theme music... Have Rod Serling narrate...

The Whites go looking for a suitable site to construct a stone circle and... Lo & Behold!!! They coincidentally FIND an existing stone circle, conveniently located on THEIR LAND... A really ancient one to boot... And... The miracles don't cease... They keep finding incredible things... (ALL ON THEIR PROPERTY...) How about that??? "A growing list of features"... Yeah, features found NOWHERE else in North America. Uh huh... Five square feet of at least 2 miles of miraculous features was excavated & some very controversial conclusions were made... All without the benefit of peer review. How professional is that?

You, the Whites & Jack Hranicky stretch credulity to the breaking point. I'm insulted that you expect anyone on this board or any other to give you & your measly geofacts the benefit of the doubt without presenting even a shred of evidence. Your cockamamie "conjectures" are grounds for having the state of your mental health cast in doubt. If you had researched Homo erectus better you would have known not to include them in your "conjectures". Admit it, you wanted to go for deep antiquity & you chose the wrong hominid to introduce as your 'artists'... Then you decided that maybe you ought to add another of the Homo genus into the mix to make it seem more plausible. You were given every opportunity to show some proof, any proof at all & all we get is your assertions. You ask a lot of a group of strangers.

And yes, my bullshit meter is still pegged.
"Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer, and, without sneering, teach the rest to sneer." ~ Alexander Pope
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Re: Problematic Discoveries

Postby circumspice » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:20 pm

"God's Hand"

A very, very old article but relevant to this particular thread.

https://www.newsweek.com/archeology-wav ... and-153959

I will not blindly accept the ideas, hypotheses or theories put forth concerning Springhead's "finds" or the seemingly miraculous "finds" on the White's Spout Run site. As I stated on a previous post, they have only one thing in common (besides incredible claims) & that one thing is Jack Hranicky.

Fraud is all too easily perpetrated, especially when there is zero oversight. Do we have the makings of yet another fraud? I don't know for sure but I suspect it could be because there has been no input from disinterested parties. Can you say Piltdown Man boys & girls? :lol:
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