10,000 Yr. Old Jewelry - Iran

[Beagle]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=43514&sectionid=3510304

Archaeological finds in Iran show that women and men applied makeup and arrayed themselves with ornaments approximately 10,000 years ago, a trend which began from religious convictions rather than mere beautification motivations.

Archaeologists have discovered various instruments of make-up and ornamental items in the Burnt City, which date back to the third millennium BCE.

The caves of the Bakhtiari region, where the first hunter-gatherers settled at the end of the ice age, have yielded not only stone tools, daggers and grindstones but also several stones covered with red ocher.

This is a lot of personal adornment in 8,000BC.

[Sam Salmon]

The Carnelian jewelry in particular is quite beautiful and the designs are timeless.

[Digit]

a trend which began from religious convictions rather than mere beautification motivations.

And the evidence for that is.......?

[Minimalist]

Thanks, Dig. I thought I was the only who read that story (twice!) and came away asking "WTH is the religious connection?"

It's as if the headline writer didn't read the story.

[Digit]

I'm an avid reader of the small print Min!

[Minimalist]

Here's another example of the same phenomenon.

The headline says that they have found a 7,000 year old city in India. But, when I read the story, all I see is the 5th century BC which would be about 2,600 years ago.

Perhaps this is false advertising!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7250316.stm

Indian archaeologists say they have found remains which point to the existence of a city about 7,000 years old in eastern India.

And...

On the basis of the new findings, Ms Smith and Mr Mohanty claim that the fortified city flourished from around 5th century BC and probably lasted well after the 4th century.

Duh?

[Digit]

It's funny Min, but I'm a member of a woodworking forum, and tonight, one fellah tore into me because of my wholesale disgust with government, do gooders, and bias.
Don't let's bother with the odd few thousand years if it doesn't fit preconceptions, truth is what you believe, don't let a few facts get in the way, that's not comfortable.
What we need, IMO, is a few more rebels and free thinkers, not people slavishly following everything that a self professed expert gives them.
Thank God for individuals on this forum at least.
Free speech will probably only last till somebody finds a way of taxing it!

[Minimalist]

How can anyone get worked up about woodworking?

[Digit]

Somebody asked if someone could suggest an advantage to the European Union Min. He received his answers and when I added my two penny worth one chap got nasty, I shall probably drop out of that forum now, if people can't discuss a subject without getting personal then I don't think I want to be a member of that forum.

[Minimalist]

I take it you don't like the Euro?

[Digit]

Put it this way Beag, your lot dumped us because you were taxed without representation, and IMO, rightly so.
We have the same problem with the Council of Ministers etc, they are unelected, that is certainly not my idea of democracy. Brussels have even ordered that that bent Bananas cannot be sold within the EU, believe it or not. It's so daft that many people believe that that is an urban myth and today I posted the relevant passage on the discussion I mentioned as it is actually true, and that sort of thing is what triggered the nasty response.
That degree of government involvement I think we do not need.

[Minimalist]

Taxation "with" representation is not so hot, either.

[Digit]

But at least you have an input Min. Bad laws only bring the whole body of law into disrepute.
Try this. My local super market sells all Cucumbers cut in half, this is to ensure that their curvature conforms to an EU reg.
The Common Fisheries Policy requires that a fishing vessel may not land more than a certain quota of various fish species or face heavy fines. They are thrown, dead, back into the sea! The reason for the quotas? To conserve fish stocks!

[john]

The Carnelian jewelry in particular is quite beautiful and the designs are timeless.

Sam -

The other trait it posesses is

that it is

red.



john

[john]

a trend which began from religious convictions rather than mere beautification motivations.

And the evidence for that is.......?

Digit -

As, in these moderen times, "hell hath no fury like a woman gender-biased", I shall not go there.

Suffice it to say, it is both historically and archaeologically evident that self-beautification on the part of both sexes regularly reached levels of intensity reflected only by equivalent intensity on the religious side.

john