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Postby Mayonaze » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:50 pm

My wife is 4'11", 95 lbs. My now 6'2" son was 9.5 lbs at birth. No C section - no problem! Of course, she was mad at me for the longest time ...

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Postby Digit » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:46 pm

Where I was born Mayo there was a saying that if the wife had the first child, and the husband had the second, there would be no third!
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Postby daybrown » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:31 pm

The Cucuteni were matriarchic. I dunno what they did with their dead, but at their most southern city, Varna, they did leave us a 5200 BP graveyard.

Last I saw, 75 males with 75 females. The females averaged into their early 40's, a longevity not seen again until the late 19th century. Its noteworthy as well, that when patriarchy is in power, men die in battle, are buried in the field, so the graveyards in town are full of widows. But not at Varna.

I have not read of any reports of kids in the graves. We would expect less childhood mortality with women in power, but this is curious. We'd also expect them to have competent midwives who'd induce labor long before a neonate got so big as to require epesiotomy in the era before antibiotics.
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Lovejoy And Eve

Postby fossiltrader » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:16 am

You do realise that Lovejoy and the eve theory are rather old news dont you???
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Postby Digit » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:22 am

Yep! Old like me. Are you inferring that because of that it is incorrect?
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Postby Rokcet Scientist » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:10 am

daybrown wrote:
The females averaged into their early 40's



Women in their 40's?
BRRRR!
Small wonder that society was doomed to go extinct!
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Postby daybrown » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:36 am

Rokcet Scientist wrote:
daybrown wrote:
The females averaged into their early 40's



Women in their 40's?
BRRRR!
Small wonder that society was doomed to go extinct!

Au Contraire, the women over 40, unlike now, were mostly dead. Those under forty, like say, 19, didnt die in childbirth, and got to live on for many more years of useful service in bed.

The Cucuteni lived on the West coast of the Black Sea for 4000 years. You know anyone that kept it together longer since then? I mean 'together', not some buncha dumbfucks in the jungle.
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