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Postby kbs2244 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:29 am

From today’s news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/f ... 675866.stm


“An Arab dhow in the Gaspar Strait, near Belitung Island, off the south-east coast of Sumatra.”

That is a long way from the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, or even the west coast of India.

It would seem the "Maritime Silk Road" did not have many trading posts along it.
One trader going from end to end.
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Postby john » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:48 pm

kbs2244 wrote:From today’s news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/f ... 675866.stm


“An Arab dhow in the Gaspar Strait, near Belitung Island, off the south-east coast of Sumatra.”

That is a long way from the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, or even the west coast of India.

It would seem the "Maritime Silk Road" did not have many trading posts along it.
One trader going from end to end.


kbs224 -

The operative word here is passagemaking, rather than the epithet of harbor hopping.

This differentiates open-water sailors from coastal sailors.

Throw in another element.......

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... k-art.html

So we have open-water travel between Indonesia and Australia,

And I'd bet my mother's best china that it wasn't

For just a few hundred years before the almighty Brits

Laid claim to Aussieland.

One of the points I am making here is both

The Dhow and the Prau are marvellously seaworthy boats, not only

In coastal water, which has its own set of dangers,

But in open water passagemaking.

And, of course, they can carry a considerable number of passengers

In addition to cargo.

It would be interesting if the researchers analyzed

A fragment of that paint to establish

The age of the painting.

hoka hey


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Postby kbs2244 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:00 pm

John:
I think the orginal story said the stuff was from the Tang Dynasty.
1200 years ago.

But it was made for export type stuff.
That would mean a well developed trading history.
So this wasn't the first, or a "fluke" ship.
It was following a well established trading route.
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Postby john » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:25 am

kbs2244 wrote:John:
I think the orginal story said the stuff was from the Tang Dynasty.
1200 years ago.

But it was made for export type stuff.
That would mean a well developed trading history.
So this wasn't the first, or a "fluke" ship.
It was following a well established trading route.



kbs224 -

Like the infamous Ginzu Knife adverts....

But there's more!

http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/article585168.ece

http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/ ... ?id=870649

hoka hey

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Postby kbs2244 » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:32 am

Actually I think he first used that phrase in the Veg-a-matic script.

I saw those posts.

I put the Dane on in the Old World thread with the question
"What kind of Indian"

And the South Africans are a day late and a dollar short.
The Russians already made that claim a few days ago.
Something about the Kamchatka Peninsula.
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