Zen and the Shamanic

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Zen and the Shamanic

Postby john » Sat May 03, 2008 10:19 pm

All -

http://www.terebess.hu/english/oxherding.html


This way of thinking is, literally,

Older than God.

Some might call it - even - Shamanic.


Boats, hematite.


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Postby woodrabbit » Sat May 03, 2008 11:10 pm

John.....so many threads?

Zen is not older than god. Your Taoist big Sumi brush poetic approach strikes me as antithetical to your audience.
Personally I am confused as to where you are heading with these glib Zen links and its relevance to Shamanism in contemporary Archeology?

I read all your posts and I only get your intent on the second or third read,.... and I'm a big fan of boats, hematite AND Taoism. This crowd strikes me as more provincial.
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Postby john » Sat May 03, 2008 11:21 pm

woodrabbit wrote:John.....so many threads?

Zen is not older than god. Your Taoist big Sumi brush poetic approach strikes me as antithetical to your audience.
Personally I am confused as to where you are heading with these glib Zen links and its relevance to Shamanism in contemporary Archeology?

I read all your posts and I only get your intent on the second or third read,.... and I'm a big fan of boats, hematite AND Taoism. This crowd strikes me as more provincial.


Woodrabbit -

Look backwards. To fire hardened Chinese scapulae, among other things. The ultimate lack of self is characteristic of the Shamanic, and, far later, Zen. Unless there is a reverse time machine involved here, I'd say that the Zen folks learned from the Shamans.


john


ps

Are you saying that the ten oxherding pictures are "glib"?

They sure as hell aren't glib to me.


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Postby woodrabbit » Sat May 03, 2008 11:51 pm

John.....regarding the 10 Ox herding pictures being glib,... surely not, just the quick link in the current context.
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