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Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:36 pm
by kbs2244
I have to give some weight to the idea of “imitation”
But of who, how far back and if there is any connection among those across the globe doing the practice.
I am an admitted believer in the idea of “diffusion.”
I have a strong affinity to the idea of very early use of trans- ocean trading.
This would take star gazing navigators.
Was this type of skull common among the early Egyptian or Babylonian priests?
(I am thinking along the lines of the “tall and narrow” inherited skull of northern Europeans.)
They were the star gazers of old and may have been worthy on imitation even to the point of exaggeration.

as an OBTW
Circumcision was practiced by the Egyptians before the Exodus.

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:08 pm
by uniface
now you are being coy about clarifying "those-whose-existence-is-recorded-in-universal-memory-but-who-are-not-to-be-mentioned-because-the-current-paradigm-does-not-admit-that-they-could-have-been-here-among-us. "
that supposedly is an explanation . Don't be shy . It's only a laugh .


Dorothy Parker once reviewed the performance of a Broadway actress as running the gauntlet of emotions from A to C.

Which about describes your intellectual horizon.

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:17 pm
by Minimalist
Circumcision was practiced by the Egyptians before the Exodus.


The "jews" borrowed everything else in their so-called bible. Why not that?

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:05 am
by Tiompan
And still we wait for any aerial evidence or clarity on ""those-whose-existence-is-recorded-in-universal-memory-but-who-are-not-to-be-mentioned-because-the-current-paradigm-does-not-admit-that-they-could-have-been-here-among-us. " .

Instead all we get are are content and evidence free personal comments .
It's not good enough to say something is a smoke screen or wrong you have to explain why .

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:08 am
by Tiompan
kbs2244 wrote:I have to give some weight to the idea of “imitation”

Who wouldn't .
Let's not forget plagiarism too .
But here is a huge difference between that and what the fantasists believe .

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:58 am
by Tiompan
Why think there is a specific source that explains all the others by diffusion ?

It’s a cultural phenomena, like many others found throughout the world in different periods .
What is the problem with that parsimonious explanation ?
What is the alternative ?

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:32 am
by Minimalist
These guys did not seem to need any "aliens" or whatever.

http://afritorial.com/tribe-the-mangbetu/

The practice survived into the age of color photography.

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:43 pm
by Tiompan
Lily wrote:
Tiompan wrote:What is the alternative ?


"There is no alternative because you and yours adamantly refuse to consider one. "

Questioning the credibilty of alternatives doesn't preclude their existence or indicate a refusal to consider them .
I keep asking for them but you and Uni won't respond .

"You dismiss and ridicule those who do try to consider one. You even obstruct and sabotage them. "

Since when is asking for examples obstructing or sabotaging .
I'll ask again .
What is the problem with the parsimonious explanation ?
What is the alternative ?
What is ""those-whose-existence-is-recorded-in-universal-memory-but-who-are-not-to-be-mentioned-because-the-current-paradigm-does-not-admit-that-they-could-have-been-here-among-us. " about ?

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:56 pm
by Minimalist
Since when is asking for examples obstructing or sabotaging .




When you don't have one?


(Just a guess.)

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:24 am
by Tiompan
Minimalist wrote:
Since when is asking for examples obstructing or sabotaging .




When you don't have one?


(Just a guess.)



Could be . Strange behaviour when all that is needed is a classic fantasy followed by the an equally nonsensical "prove it didn't happen " .
But there is still "those-whose-existence-is-recorded-in-universal-memory-but-who-are-not-to-be-mentioned-because-the-current-paradigm-does-not-admit-that-they-could-have-been-here-among-us. "
That suggests that at least Uni has bought one of the alt. "theories " .

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:30 am
by circumspice
uniface wrote:Lilly's put her finger on it. Either of my two ways, it's emulation -- whether that be of the highest status people in that culture or of those-whose-existence-is-recorded-in-universal-memory-but-who-are-not-to-be-mentioned-because-the-current-paradigm-does-not-admit-that-they-could-have-been-here-among-us.

Same thing as Black folks in decades past buying trainloads of hair conk and skin lightener to make them look more nearly White.

None of your genetic problems or environmental issues deform skulls to that extreme a degree and in that way. That's claiming "It just happened" again -- which you reject as a summary of your position but then immediately revert to behind a smokescreen of non sequeturs.



Nice...

Your racist/white supremacist ideology shines through like a beacon. Just look at your example... In your world view whites are the highest status persons in our culture... Therefore all non white persons want to emulate their appearance? Really? :lol:

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:05 am
by Minimalist
For evidence, Circ, they could produce Michael Jackson.

Image


Granted that is one very exceptional case.

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:30 am
by Tiompan
Hyper and everyday diffusionism is often based on a racist agenda or at least a lack of appreciation of what indigenous peoples are capable of .
It also works the other way monuments like Stonehenge were always considered to have had a Mediterranean i.e. Classic Greek/ Roman / Mycenaen
even Egyptian origin as it wasn’t believed the locals could have managed it .
For the past century white folks , physically , have been trying to get a few shades darker and culturally , attempting to emulate black musicians ,
which has been phenomenally successful economically and much less so aesthetically .
Still waiting for any argument against the most parsimonious one or even a diffusionist one .

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:06 am
by uniface
Just look at your example... In your world view whites are the highest status persons in our culture... Therefore all non white persons want to emulate their appearance? Really? :lol:


No, Honey

It was in their worldview (it's one word, precious) that White people were the elite. That's why they bought that stuff and used it.

Why don't you run along now and play. Overtaxing your intellect is making you cranky.

Re: Skull Deformation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:16 pm
by uniface
You are conflating emulation with vanity and neurosis. :wink: