by E.P. Grondine » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:31 am
Okay, tiompan, since you apparently missed my earlier replies, here they are is again:
1) "m" is next to "n" on the keyboard., and I am typing these with one hand for the most part.
2,3,4,5)
Your own ignorance of cometary evolution is appalling, tiompan.
Why the hell do you think that Giacobini Zinner looked the same way it does now as it did some 13,000 years ago?
I am not confusing comets with meteors.
What the alignments may have been, and to what, is the issue under discussion and analysis.
Fletcher and I managed to get together for about 30 minutes this last weekend.
He is reluctant to work on Gobekli Tepe,
because site maps aligned to magnetic north are useless.
For that matter, due to the Earth's wobble,
site maps aligned to the current celestial north will be useless later on.
Now do you want to make yourself useful, tiompan,
or do you just want to bloviate?
The issue now at hand is the rate of cometary injection into the inner solar system,
not whether there were cometary impacts at the start of the Holocene,
or whether they led to bizarre magical practices.
Why you think the ancient Europeans were more rational than ancient Native Americans is beyond me.
Do you think Native American sites are somehow less important than European ones?
Usually people believe what they want to believe until reality intrudes.
Postby E.P. Grondine » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:09 am
Tiompan -
Fletcher took a brief look at a Gobekli Tepe site map and the plaques.
Based on that brief look, and our understanding of Native American astronomies, general background skills, etc.
We believe that the impactor involved in the Holocene Start Impact Events,
and thus the comet active at the time of the construction of Gobekli Tepe,
was Comet Giacobini Zinner.
Thus mankind has been threatened by two comets in the recent past, Comet Giacobini Zinner and Comet Encke.
Based on this sample of one from Earth, Jupiter observations, and other data,
we believe the threat posed by the cometary impact hazard is far far far greater
than NASA's recent operational estimates.
Factoring out precession and nutation,
and gravitational perturbation,
the central pillars of the structures likely aligned to Comet Giacobini Zinner, as shown by the stone plaque.
The various shifts in its orbit over time likely led to the burials and reconstructions of the structures.
Fletcher wants me to emphasize to you that occupation of the site that has been exposed so far was likely over 2,000 years.
This is all a first glance,
but it is our current working estimate.
Real detailed work would require a site visit,
which Fletcher and myself could undertake providing our full expenses were covered in advance,
i.. air fare, ground transportation, food, and lodging,
along with a healthy per diem.
We currently have plenty to do right here.
Now just to make sure you don't miss these replies this time,
and to avoid further typing,
I will also point out to you that whatever their mistakes, neither Collins nor Hancock is stupid enough to mistake
a major recent impact event for a "fantasy":
"There was also the all important inclusion of the first component of the thread ,i.e. GT, and how it has become the latest in a long line of
of ancient sites that have been used by the alt. crowd to "explain " some fantasy .
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